East London Mosque Speaker Rails against “Sagging”, Blames “Faggots”

Harry’s Place has posted footage of a remarkably crude talk given at the East London Mosque in 2007, at which a speaker named Abdul Karim Hattim discourses on “fags” and “faggots” in front of an image of Elton John and the late 2-Pac. Hattim tells his audience that 2-Pac was a “fag” because he lived a gangta lifestyle, a sign of which is the wearing of low-hung trousers – this apparently known as “sagging”. Quoting a book entitled Homosexuality and the Effeminization of Afrikan Males, Hattin explains that the fashion derives from prisons, where trousers would be worn in this way in order to facilitate quick and easy anal sex.

Snopes has an entry on this subject; it is of course an urban myth – the unhappy trend for “sagging” does indeed come from US prisons, but its origins there are in the more mundane realities of ill-fitting prison garb and the fact that belts are banned to prevent suicides.

The author of Homosexuality and the Effeminization of Afrikan Males is Dr Mwalimu K. Bomani Baruti, formerly a Morehouse College sociologist known as Larry Crawford (just to be clear, he has no association with Hattin). Baruti is also the author of a number of other books, including Excuses, Excuses: The Politics of Interracial Coupling in European Culture. From looking around his websites, he appears to take a conspiratorial view of the sociology and psychology of sexuality, in which “white supremicists” use sex to sow gender confusion in order to dominate and destroy black men’s essential “Afrikan male” gender identity. Here’s a taster:

In plain terms, there is a direct relationship between the forced enslavement of Afrikan males into European society, the ongoing fear of Afrikan men by European men, the racist economic order that has gradually but systematically reduced its need for Afrikan labor since the official end of the Afrikan’s physical enslavement and the subsequent growing effeminization of a significant number of Afrikan males in this Western society… In the Western cultural context, men fear men, not women. And European men fear Afrikan men for many good reasons. They understand that the best way to significantly reduce this threat is to turn your enemy’s males into females so that they make themselves into nonthreats.


Attempts to graft the European sex imperative onto the Afrikan personality began well before “old school” music, where a sexual priority was already being pushed beyond its natural limits through the airwaves and personal contact between members of these two groups. The goal has been the gradual but complete internalization of the peculiar bedroom behaviors of Europeans by Afrikans so that the extremes and perversions Europeans naturally practiced would appear less abnormal to a world where Europeans have always been a significant minority…

And so on. Although his essays are written in a radical academic style, one can see obvious similarities with the conspiratorial end of the Christian Right, which sees Communism and “cultural Marxism” as the secret key to explaining all kinds of social trends which are considered unwelcome.

3 Responses

  1. What is this East London mosque been targeted this week for. Is there some event that the guys at HP and its affiliates have some beef with?

    I checked them today like that other crazy place called Jihadwatch for Geert Wilder updates, but found this little porky movie obsessed man’s videos.

    I certainly feel sorry for the people who attend these presentations. The man himself looked a pervert to me, so I am not surprised if he sees people he considers “perverts” all over the place.

  2. He’s right, youy know – sagging pants are sooo gay these days…..

  3. Is there some event that the guys at HP and its affiliates have some beef with?

    Uh..well yes. You see Islamists are calling for gays and Jews to be murdered. Some of the crowd at HP are gay, others are Jewish, and yet others both, and so it is extremely relevant. If this “spot the fag” game had been held at a Christian church frequented by high profile pols, you can bet your mortgage, Bart would be frothing at the mouth.

    this post, like so many others here, misses the point. The fact this mosque parades such filth on a regular basis, and yet recieves fawning praise from the gov’t, a gov’t that portrays it as a moderate organisation is the real scandal here. Bart takes a rageing islamic lunatic, and instead of exploring the islamic origins of his homophobia, decides instead to cite the works of an obscure writer to explain (away?) the origins of Hakim’s hatreds. This islamist wants queers dead, but in his last sentence, Bart draws the whole incident back to evangelicals!

    Of course.

    So here’s how I,ll tie all this back: Bart is to evangelical Christians what Hakim is to gays. Both appear consumed with hate and so utterly obsessed with their respective “enemies” that all common sense and reason go out the window.

    You really are a boon to ther Far Right, Bart.

    I suggest that from now on you take hate-filled islamists like this on, because if you don’t you’re going to bolster support for the BNP.

    Prattle on about evangelicals till the cow come home! People know where the danger lay.

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