Police Whistleblowers’ Group Raises Concerns about Jon Wedger and Maggie Oliver

The Independent Police Support Group, which has existed since 2004 to provide “moral support and guidance to police whistleblowers or those who have been bullied”, has posted a statement raising concerns about the self-declared status of Jon Wedger and Maggie Oliver as “police whistleblowers”.

Oliver is the more famous of the two: she is widely respected for her role in exposing the Rochdale “grooming gang”, and she is today a fully fledged celebrity: a year ago she appeared on Celebrity Big Brother, and she has just ended 2018 by doing panto at the Benn Hall in the town of Rubgy (billed as “Rochdale whistleblower”, which is a bit dark for light entertainment).

Wedger, though, has also featured in the media, most notably in the Sunday Express, and he has been endorsed by his local MP, Mike Penning. I’ve written about him on this blog a number of times due to his associations with conspiracy theorists, including promoters of the Hampstead Satanic Ritual Abuse hoax and figures on the fringe right (one video promoted on his website is titled “Insight UK Column – Support for Tommy Robinson”). Oliver has spoken warmly of Wedger in at least one video where they appear together, and her endorsement may help mainstream Wedger’s activism.

The statement, by the IPSG’s Julian King, is titled “The Whistleblowing Bandwagon”, and it raises a number of issues. These include:

  • Inconsistent accounts: “With regards to Maggie’s case there is this glaring difference as to the reason she left the force, having known Mr Wedger for 4 years and each being a listening ear for each other according to video footage, it is still unclear as to what actually happened or why different versions have been given.”
  • The question of why neither Wedger nor Oliver have ever “sought to use their right to take their respective police forces to an employment tribunal with regards to their treatment”, and why Wedger says police officers have no legal protections: “This is not true when whistleblowing is involved as police officers are covered by section 191 of the Employment rights Act 1996 and the Public Interest Disclosure Act.”
  • Wedger’s silence about his allegations for several years: “We would have expected Jon to have formally challenged the corrupt behaviour by his boss at that time…. Staying silent for so many years especially; with regards to the seriousness of the matters alleged is not an option for a police officer.”
  • An allegation of Satanic Ritual Abuse made against a chief constable on the basis of Wedger providing King with “a section” of the RAINS list, which “appeared to contain everyone and their uncle so has to be treated with caution” (more on RAINS here).
  • Wedger providing inaccurate accounts of whistleblowing by other officers, in particular King: “no efforts have been made to correct the information”.
  • Wedger’s complaint that he was not promoted for his police work: “police officers know that everyone goes through the same promotion system by completing Sergeants exams and applying for a selection board when suitably qualified.”
  • Wedger’s claims to have a network of whistleblowers supporting him: “none appear to have supported him publicly recently and it is interesting that the posters being displayed [at a protest event] show just 3 officers, Jon and two senior officers Mike Veale and Bob Quick. The senior officers do not appear to be whistleblowers.”

38 Responses

  1. There is definitely lots of pedophilia going on and certainly lots of cover ups eg by doing false flags .

    And all the things you state which happens to him one would expect in a cover up . He would obviously not want to end up like jill dando . Why would he bring this trouble on himself ?

    You infer bad motives on him without evidence in the same way that you accuse him of .

    I saw him being interviewed by David Steele the ex CIA man – I did not see what you infer.

    Who blew the whistle on Saville over 30-40 years –
    no one – so it happens – cover ups happen – very clever ones .

    Are you part of the cover , John ?

    • David Steele: another fantasist who attends those ridiculous phony “public inquiries” organised by con artists with disbarred barristers and Bali grifters.
      As for this “lots of pedophilia going on and certainly lots of cover-ups”- where is your proof and evidence and have you taken it to the authorities and if not, why not?.
      And how do you know it’s going on as you allege?. You know people connected to pedophilia?. If you make such claims you need to back it up. Do so and do it now.

      • You would not be fit to lick David Steele’s boots.

        Are you telling me there is no pedophilia going on and that the pedos dont really want to cover up their satanic perversions – lol – you gave away your job , a shill for pedo coverups , your’re not even a clever shill – you should be sacked.

        Was Jimmy Saville just a DJ ? lol What about Cyril Smith MP or Peter Hayman of MI6

        I have seen trolls for many things – but being troll for
        hiding pedo crimes must be from the lower regions of hell ,what do you get paid to sell your soul ?

        You will end up with the same eternal penalty as those who do it – if not already .

      • Mmm. A sailing boat in Jersey waters, housing Jimmy Saville and Edward Heath is a little tricky to explain, given the childrens home investigations there. Is there a different explanation than a relaxing weekend away?

      • @Susan Hornsby

        Seriously, what are you talking about? Do you have any proof that Savile and Heath ever went on a sailing trip together? Heath was into sailing, I’m not aware that Savile was. Of course, even if Savile and Heath DID undertake a sailing trip together, it proves absolutely nothing in terms of criminality.

      • I believe that the police have been given numerous statements over the years, as well as files either becoming ‘lost’ or remaining classified. There are also a number of photo’s to be got freely via a quick internet search. These denials are similar to those given to the Hillsbrough families for so many years. Thankfully the truth began to emerge in that instance.

      • Ted Heath child sex abuse claims: Footage shows Tory whip saying government could cover up scandals involving ‘small boys’ and MPs

        Tim Fortescue said in 1995: ‘We would do anything we could to help – for brownie points’

        Adam Withnall
        @adamwithnall
        Tuesday 4 August 2015 11:31

        Maybe one of his colleagues voices gives a clearer picture!

      • There are indeed a great many photos on the internet in general. Can you show us one of the two of them on a boat? I’ll accept a dinghy or catamaran.

      • A quick internet search by putting both names, and the words boat and Jersey into the search. This will bring lots up. No difficulties in doing this.

      • I’ve tried that, even omitting Jersey to give a greater chance of success, with no luck. Can you link to even one photograph?

    • Perhaps there are so many photos of the dread pair in sailing boats that Susan is overwhelmed and cannot find it within herself to put up a link to even one of them!

      • If we just close our eyes and imagine two lank-haired pillars of the establishment acting out Swallows and Amazons adventures, we may have our answer.

      • No, Susan isn’t overwhelmed. And, as you quite rightly say, photo’s on a boat prove nothing. However, the 2 minute 16 second YouTube clip showing Tim Fortescue talking about how child abuse would be covered up, for any member of parliament, shows how corruption of any nature could be hidden.
        Titled:
        Former Tory whip admits scandals involving ‘small boys’ could be hushed up.

        I’m sure that you have the capacity to search for this if you so wish. I imagine that this will also be looked upon as lies, therefore I’ll leave our conversations here.

      • Because, Tom, who cares if the fiends Savile & Heath didn’t actually abuse unfortunate urchins and then throw them over the sailboat into the ocean? If we imagine that it actually happened, then, in a way, it did.

      • The Fortescue clip is certainly disturbing, doubly so that he felt no problem with saying it on camera. Trebly so that few at the time even picked up on it. Proves nothing against Heath specifically though. Guilt by association is a dangerous game.

    • Mr. King did a marvellous thing. He brought together a number of Victims of State torture, sex abuse, attempted murder, who have all suffered Denial of the Truth cover up crimes, heavily evidenced. Including my own Cases, Found True at a U.N. investigative Tribunal. Our cases now have “maintained status” at the International Criminal Court, where pre June 2002 originating cases are being referred now to the U.N. Court of Prosecution, Geneva. WARNING. The I.C.C. OTP asked me to test two authorities in the U.K. we had not previously approached. My own latest evidence shows with crystal clarity that the Local Government Care Ombudsman is nothing but a ‘front’ agency, for their council clients. They sabotaged my evidence, secretly gave my name and address to the Defendant council, putting me at theoretical personal safety risk, as I have been threatened before, and lied, after refusing to safe-guard partially council withheld evidence 2016. Our group of International Prosecutors will bring them to Justice for criminal violations Art. 54 (1) Rome Treaty. They have been notified. “Care” nothing, they could not care less about victims, and are not impartial at all.

      juanfraser2002@yahoo.es

  2. You ask excellent questions.

    I had tons of respect for Maggie Oliver but I’m afraid it’s reduced significantly since I saw the panto poster where she’s billed as the ‘Rochdale Whistleblower’. She’s using her past (which involves serious child abuse cases) to enhance her celebrity status. Let’s face it – it’s in poor taste at minimum. It all looks stage managed and she should sack her publicist.

    • “Let’s face it – it’s in poor taste at minimum. It all looks stage managed and she should sack her publicist.”

      Frankly, Viv, anyone who seeks celeb or sainthood status on the basis of highlighting child abuse is a bit of a **** full stop.

      • For the sake of the exposure and charging of abused
        kids I dont care if she does panto . Any activity is a breath of fresh air compared to the abuse of children .

        This is the crime that Jesus condemns “….better for them to hang a millsone round their neck and jump in the nearest sea …….” , this will come true

      • As you can see by the response, the fanaticism of the cult-like fans of Oliver & Wedger (who, repeat have never exposed anything) is so intense they can actually weave TV appearances into some bizarre way of “saving children”.
        I think Oliver was possibly a very good cop but working on sensational case was not done in isolation. When victims approach the police over serious sex allegations an entire team springs into action and uses all the decades of facilities and resources the police have and they work as a unit. Traditionally in these very serious investigations all who worked on them share the praise if they are successful. We have no proof of Oliver’s claims she ran the show and when ex-officers make such claims they take a great risk as the many others who work on a case get pretty pissed off.
        That will become evident when the infamous ‘Nick’ goes on trial as you can be sure there are a handful of aggrieved coppers just awaiting their time to drop a bucket on a certain high profile ex-cop TV host who has made similar claims to Oliver & Wedger.

      • Having been a Met officer for 27 years I can vouch for how the organisation is corrupt at a too level, closes ranks and bullies its officers and staff. Employment tribunals are not easy and exceptionally stressful.. I’ve been there. Legal protections for whistle blowers are all well and good but it still places the onus on the officer to instigate proceedings and put ones head above the parapit in what is a VERY oppressive environment for those who dare.

    • How can she be a whistle-blower when what she did was work on a case as a police officer? Does that mean every cop in the land is a “whistle-blower”?. What has she actually whistle-blown? She did work on a very important case but like all ex-coppers who claim they did all the work it automatically exposes them as suspect. Dozens of detectives work on serious sex assault cases and it’s shocking insult when these ex-cops pop up and take credit for all the work knowing full well that The Met & other forces are forbidden because of privacy rights to reveal an ex-copper’s work or reasons for leaving the force. Tabloids of course jump on any hyperventilated claim and publish guff knowing full well nothing can be proved or disproved. As for this Wedger bloke- another who has not revealed a single crime. Making claims like there are “establishment pedophile rings” or Aliens on the other side of the Moon is not “whistle-blowing”- it’s making an unproved claim. And they need to tread very carefully just as another ex-cop who built his fame on the Savile matter. There are plenty of still working police officers who get pretty pissed off about ex-plods who demean their work by attempting to take all the credit. They sit quietly and bide their time.

      • Whistle blowers are those who insist on working on a case even when they have been told to leave it alone .
        They bravely expose the crime and can lose everything for it . So you said a very sill thing .
        Why would working on a case make them suspect – another silly thing you said.

        Does no one oversee your daft trolling .

        Why do cops pop up and take the credit when there is no credit for whistle blowing ??

        There are no aliens on the other side of the moon but there are certainly establishment pedo rings .
        Poor psyop – what about flat earth theory have you got that psyop in your wee troll booklet .

        I am sure any decent cop will admire wedger’s bravery. Why not wake up to the fresh air of a decent job .

      • Anyone whistleblowing on pedophilia cover ups should be protected. Sadly I worked for the cops in the 80s and one of the good cops I had worked with tried to expose corruption within the force and also professional people involved in pedophilia. One day he was working in the station, then he was gone. never to be seen again. I found out some time later he had been committed to a mental hospital. He was perfectly fine when I worked with him. Here in Australia a cop whistleblower lost his job, his home and his marriage. Would he do it all again to save children being abused. Yes he would. You’re a drongo. You’d have to be very careful to upset the upper echelons of any establishment and think good and hard about whistleblowing. Would you whistleblow!!!!

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  4. Put aside your fantasy Charles Allen about having me lick grifter Steele’s boots and come up with the facts.
    All you are doing is making claims without a scintilla of proof and seizing upon past allegations which have nil to do with “whistle-blowing” by either Wedger or Oliver who again- have made unproved claims.
    No evidence, no facts- just claims. What are they waiting for? Have they taken their claims to the authorities?. Have you?.
    And why do these self -appointed “whistle-blowers” always ask for money like Wedger did just so he could go on a biking holiday? What’s that all about?. I reckon people who solicit donations on the net on the back of child abuse are pretty suspect.

  5. THE HAMPSTEAD CASE IS NOT A HOAX. HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THE KIDS’ DETAILED AND CONSISTENT TESTIMONIES? WHY , IF COACHED, SHOULD THEY HAVE ACCUSED THEIR MUM’S PARTNER, TOO, SAYING HE HAD BEATEN THEM IN SOME OCCASIONS? WHY DIDN’T THE JUDGE LISTEN TO THE DOCTOR WHO CONFIRMED THE SIGNS OF SODOMY?
    WHY WAS THERE NO SERIOUS INVESTIGATION?PLEASE BE LOGICAL… AND HONEST. OR VANISH

    • @Rosella. The children were beaten, kicked and threatened into submission by mother’s partner. She let him do it. Mother’s partner has 30 plus convictions for dishonesty, drugs and violence including violence against a child. His most recent offence against a child was in 2011.
      The doctor’s report went for peer review and following the findings of the peer group she amended her conclusions. That had nothing to do with the judge. At the time of the medicals the doctor didn’t know that mother had been giving the children enemas. That would no doubt have made a big difference to her original opinion. Besides that, the minor scars found on the children do not explain repeated anal abuse perpetrated by dozens of people every week for years. There wouldn’t be minor scars – there’s be major damage.
      A serious investigation had been started but was stopped when the children retracted their statements and also because some of the information provided by the children had been investigated and didn’t check out. Because of this the police didn’t have ‘reasonable grounds’ (what the Americans call ‘probable cause) to continue with the investigation.
      I hope that’s logical enough.

  6. Looks as though Jersey blogger ‘voiceforchildren’ is retweeting Wedger & Brees.

    https://twitter.com/TheVoiceJersey

    Hard to him seriously any more. Bandini would probably say I shouldn’t have in the first place.

  7. You write complete nonsence , you are obviously out to discredit jon Wedger i have known jon for over 25years
    And during his police career he has been a loyal employee, you state that he has not challenged the police for their actions , this is untrue he is currently waiting for the case to come to court, he has courage in his convictions, his social media awareness is a by product of his lifetime work,helping children and adults seek justice, the unfair slander and finger pointing is not helping his cause, have you no compassion for someone who is truly doing good work, you should be ashamed of yourself , don’t quite until you know the facts

  8. Jon Wedgers silence for several years!
    How dare you!!
    He was doing his job to the best that he could, tearing him apart!
    It took me 43 years to ‘be allowed’ to have a voice to speak up as a victim of J Savile.
    And it’s taken a hell of a lot more cops, a hell of a lot longer, who will never come come forward due to protocol.
    Give Jon Wedger all the support he needs.
    He’s got a voice!!

  9. Having been a Met officer for 27 years I can vouch for how the organisation is corrupt at a too level, closes ranks and bullies its officers and staff. Employment tribunals are not easy and exceptionally stressful.. I’ve been there. Legal protections for whistle blowers are all well and good but it still places the onus on the officer to instigate proceedings and put ones head above the parapit in what is a VERY oppressive environment for those who dare.

  10. Jon Wedger was an outstanding cop, and one I would have trusted with my life.
    Let him speak as he wishes.
    Good luck Jon – you are an honorable man.

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