Helen Ukpabio Attacks T.B. Joshua in Interview

A number of Nigerian websites have noted the front cover of a magazine called Yes! International (17 September 2012), announcing an interview in which Helen Ukpabio “Exposes T.B. Joshua”. Subheadings promise details about “the demons that give him money” and “why his predictions should not be believed”, as well as “more, much more”. The interview does not appear on the magazine’s website, so it’s impossible to tell whether the interview focuses on Joshua or whether the headline refers to statements made in passing from a more wide-ranging piece.

Neither Ukpabio nor Joshua are uplifting characters to have to ponder.Ukpabio is known for her aggressive fear-mongering over the existence of child-witches; as well as deploying lawfare, she has sent church members to disrupt a conference on the problem of child-witch stigmatisation, and attempted to shut down a hostel for children which she claimed was being run by a “wizard“. Critics – including this blog – have also been subjected to crude abuse on a website created by her webmaster and endorsed by her.

Joshua, meanwhile, makes extravagant claims to supernatural powers of prophecy in relation to global and African news events. A vague reference to the death of a president in Africa earlier this year preceded the demise of President Bingu wa Mutharika of Malawi; Mutharika knew of the prediction, and it is perhaps possible that it had a psychosomatic effect on him. However, in most cases Joshua’s supposed power is demonstrated through heavily-edited videos promoted after particular incidents; T.B. Joshua Watch shows that deceptive editing methods are employed.

Joshua is a more powerful figure than Ukpabio. Forbes names him as one of the “The Five Richest Pastors In Nigeria“, and his followers include politicians; a report last year in the Zimbabwe NewsDay stated that:

A number of senior African politicians and businesspeople have visited the popular Nigerian prophet including suspended Zanu PF legislator Tracey Mutinhiri, Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, Zifa president Cuthbert Dube, former South African president Nelson Mandela’s ex-wife Winnie Madikizela-Mandela and Malawian Vice-President [now President] Joyce Banda.

However, Joshua also sits somewhat apart from other Nigerian pastors; in 2002,  Charisma magazine reported that

Pastors of Nigeria’s largest churches say Joshua mixes Christianity with occult practices. During a leadership summit held near Lagos in July, they firmly denounced him while discussing the issue with a group of Americans that included theologian C. Peter Wagner, Colorado pastor Ted Haggard and prayer leader Chuck Pierce.

…The summit was held at the world’s largest church building, Winner’s Chapel in Ota, pastored by Bishop David Oyedepo…. The Nigerian leaders included Oyedepo; Mike Okonkwo, head of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria; Enoch Adeboye, general overseer of the fast-growing Redeemed Christian Church of God; and Ayo Oritsejafor, pastor of the 26,000-member Word of Life Bible Church in Warri.

In this context, Ukpabio’s position on Joshua simply follows the majority consensus.

Charisma also noted that Joshua does have some international links:

…several prominent charismatic leaders have visited Joshua’s compound and returned with favorable impressions.

These include Canadian renewal leader John Arnott, Pittsburgh pastor Joseph Garlington, Louisiana evangelist Marvin Gorman and New Zealand minister Bill Subritzky.

…Arnott also noted that a South African evangelist, Kobus van Rensburg–who has been heavily influenced by Joshua–has established a healing center in the town of Stilfontein, near Johannesburg. This month, van Rensburg will be speaking at Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, which Arnott pastors.

19 Responses

  1. Hi Richard,

    For Arnott and Garlington to back T.B. Joshua indicates a possible point of dissension among the NAR crowd; Garlington has served with Wagner’s ACPE, and Arnott’s apostolic networks have a close alliance with Wagner’s.

    For me, it’s a bit reminiscent of the Todd Bentley debacle.

    Best,
    BruceW

    • Charles your line of conversation shows that you are not a Christian. you sound more of an atheist so back out and get lost. Helen Ukpabio may not be among the first five richest religious leaders in Africa according to your ranking, but for sure she is first for proclaiming the truth of Christ by defeating atheism and standing against all odds trying to mock the power of God.

    • Science Watch;
      Wow ! Wow ! Once again Science is put to shame. View The TB Joshua 2016 Korea miracles on YouTube and Dstv CH360. The evidence that GOD “so loved the world” cannot be disputed. What greater modern day evidence of GODS love for the world through Jesus Christ.
      Science has brought is much suffering through medicine and Evolution. Look at the powerful, practical solutions Jesus is demonstrating in 2016.

    • Critics eat your cruel hearts out ! ! !
      Scoan’s power with the holy Prophet TB Joshua is unstoppable !!
      He is just the greatest living and verifiable prophet on earth now.
      Another unique aspect of God’s Renowned global evangelist, P.S. Upthegrove’s message has to do with his God given revelation that Prophet T.B.Joshua is one of the twelve end-time prophets in the world. This is a rare confirmation. Apostles, the world over, are several millions, but God knows exactly the gifts He gives to each individual, if they actually are called! The end-time prophets are bound to face opposition, sometimes vicious, dangerous, poison-edged and evil-laced challenges and criticisms, the kind which T.B. Joshua has been exposed to over the years.
      The critics, forget that the Creator needs no approval from the humans to call His servants. Many of Prophet T.B.Joshua’s vicious critics have never stopped asking for T.B. Joshua’s help with mentorship, church membership and pastoral training and confirmation. To them, the mentorship of God is insufficient. It is as if they demand that God should come physically to anoint Joshua, even when the fruits from his ministry demonstrate HE is clearly the centre of his ministerial commitments. Critics question the use of the Anointing Water and stickers; they query the stretching of hands and even the use of the word ‘Emmanuel’. They are not satisfied that the true work of God is being done in the midst of people from all corners of the globe – America, Asia, Europe and Africa.

      God’s General, C.S. Upthegrove, who had successfully pastored AA Allen’s church as a minister, was also encouraged by the ministration of the wise men in the church. He recounted how seeing such power demonstrated reminded him of all he had witnessed through ministers of God such as Oral Roberts, AA Allen, William Branham and RW Shambach who he had the privilege to work with and know personally.
      God had told the church – through Renowned global evangelist P.S. Upthegrove – that T.B. Joshua is one of His prophets, one through whom God would use to give people from all over the world their deliverance, blessings, healings and salvation. He said God uses anything to touch the lives of people – sticks, stones, shadows and even dead men’s bones. That T.B. Joshua has been using water to do likewise is within with God’s ability to be present in every matter of nature. The Anointing Water has been successfully used over the years to tear the kingdom of satan apart and als set people free from bondages and fasten people’s expectations on God.

      Renowned global evangelist P.S. Upthegrove told the congregation that AA Allen had actually described The SCOAN to him, so graphically, prophesying that God would sustain his life to conceived.see the fulfilment of his message and enabling him to meet the person concerned. He had always prayed to the Lord to give him grace to visit the prophesied church and it’s General Overseer. Allen’s vision had come in a period in which technologies such as the internet, through which many have discovered Joshua’s ministry, had not even been around.

  2. Richard, your line of conversation shows that you are not a Christian. you sound more of an atheist so back out and get lost. Helen Ukpabio may not be among the first five richest religious leaders in Africa according to your ranking, but for sure she is first for proclaiming the truth of Christ by defeating atheism and standing against all odds trying to mock the power of God.

  3. […] known for her teachings about the dangers of child witches. The interview received some attention earlier this month, as it includes an attack on Pastor T.B. Joshua, whom she accuses of working with […]

  4. Helen may be right but she also has some questionable character.

  5. I can’t say anything about her [Helen Ukpabio] until I read the Interview and know what she said with her own lips! I don’t trust journalists again due to the lies they tell and write most times.
    BUT, KNOW THIS “BITTER” TRUTH: – PROPHET TB JOSHUA HAS BEEN MIGHTILY AND HEAVILY ANOINTED BY GOD HIMSELF AND YOU CAN’T FIND TB JOSHUA’S KIND OF ANOINTING ANYWHERE OR IN ANY CHURCH IN THE ENTIRE WHOLE WORLD. EVEN DEMONS THAT INFLICTED, POSSESSED, AND AFFLICTED PEOPLE, SPOKE OUT THAT THEY HATE TB JOSHUA AND AS SUCH, CAUSED PEOPLE, INCLUDING MEN OF GOD WORLDWIDE, TO HATE HIM [TB JOSHUA]. I HEARD IT AND SAW IT WITH MY OWN 2 EYES LIVE, SO, NO ONE CAN DECEIVE ME OR EMMANUEL TV VIEWERS THAT SAW AND HEARD IT AS WELL.
    I’M AN ANGLICAN BUT I MUST SAY THE TRUTH WHEN I SEE IT. TB JOSHUA IS GREAT !!!!!!!!! IF YOU WATCH EMMANUEL TV FOR 1 MONTH, YOU WILL RUN TO HIM BECAUSE YOU WILL SEE HIM DO EXACTLY WHAT CHRIST DID…BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. AS I SPEAK TO YOU ALL, MY OWN FRIEND WHO WAS HIV POSITIVE AND HAD A SHORT TIME TO LIVE HERE ON EARTH, WENT TO TB JOSHUA IN LAGOS, NIGERIA, AND WAS HEALED FROM HIV TYPES I & II FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS NOW!!! HE’S BEEN HIV NEGATIVE SINCE THEN TILL DATE 2013!!!! THIS IS MY OWN FRIEND THAT I KNOW TOO WELL AND PERSONNALLY SAW THE HIV I & II MEDICAL REPORT OBTAINED FROM A GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL MYSELF, AND ALL THE HIV SYMPTOMS HAD ALREADY STARTED SHOWING ON HIM BY THEN. HE’S SINCE BEEN HEALED AND HE TOLD ME HE’S READY TO DIE FOR TB JOSHUA RIGHT FROM THEN EVEN TILL NOW APR 2013. THIS IS SMTHING THAT HAPPENED RIGHT WHERE I LIVE, AND TO MY OWN FRIEND FOR THAT MATTER. HE THAT HAS AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING.
    TO US ALL, WE LOVE TB JOSHUA WITH ALL OUR SOUL AND EVEN DO SO TO GOD THE MORE FOR BRINGING SUCH A GIFT TO THE WORLD.
    THANKS BE TO GOD FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER……………………………………….., AMEN.

  6. Wheter me Nigerian or American pastors say about Tb joshua cannot change what he is.They are not our judges at all.We are all grown ups and knows how to judge.We all need God.Like the Berians pastors in nigeria etc must proove allthings before they jump into conclussion lest they fight God who is the final judge. Maybe is high time they deliver TB Joshua.Isnt it that they and their members have been binding and loosing TB for a long time?Has God answered their prayers?

  7. WHAT IS CONFUSING HERE ? HATE HIM OR LOVE HIM/ SENIOR PROPHET T.B. JOSHOU IS TRUELY A MAN OF GOD / HE DOES NOT OWN ANY BODY TO PROVE THAT / LADIES AND GETLEMAN DEEDS SPEAKS / WHAT MORE DO YOU WHAT HIM TO PROVE TO YOU / DEEDS SPEAKS….

    I MEAN IF WHAT HE IS DOING IS OF DEVIL / OK WENA SHOW US WHAT OF GOD… DEEDS SPEAKS..

  8. FELLOW CHRISTIANS / DOT JUDGE /
    OUR ONLY ONE COMMON ENERMY IS SATAN /

    STOP DEVIDING… STOP POINTING FINGERS… STOP COPING… STOP BLESPHERMING …
    IN OUR LIFE TIME WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE MORE SERVANTS OF GOD TO REVIVE /RESTORE US ,LET US USE THEM CONSTRTUCTIVELY NOT DESTRUCTIVELY ….. LET ALSO RESPECT OTHERS.. OOH PLEASE DOT JUDGE

  9. you are a woman of God if you are truly that and you know God say don’t judge.I believed is a real prophet even if he say no God again I will still follow him.

  10. The bible says,”judge not that ye may not be judged”. T.b joshua is called to the ministry as a prophet and he will be judged by God if he does not use this gift. All he does is for the edification of the saints which is the purpose behind every God given ministry. Therefore don’t be ensared by your words or give room to the accuser of the brethens. As christians, let us go back to the drawing board that is he Holy bible and seek for the truth from God’s own Holy spirit. As for me, I speak the truth, I lie not, you will love T.B.joshua so much if you love the things of God.

  11. My brothers Note: no one is jurging anybody, rather decerning; cos God himself send the spirit which giv the ability to decern good & evil & that, & that’s why the bible says, by their fruits we shall know them (decern) through the help of the spirit & that is just what Helen is excersing not jurgement, cos is only God that can jurge & reward every one accordin to what he or she had done.

    • A more factual account from someone who has visited the Church of the Synagogue is written by Professor Willem Ouweneel, a prominent Dutch theologian who holds doctorates in biology, philosophy and theology. He lectures in Universities in Switzerland, Holland, South Africa and Germany. He is of Brethren background but is thoroughly satisfied of the genuineness of the miracles and vindicates the theology of Prophet Joshua.
      Are you satisfied the healing miracles are genuine?
      Absolutely.
      One cannot watch the above videos without being convinced of their authenticity. Apart from which I saw healing miracles for myself when he prayed for the sick.Four of the seven members of our team also received healings.
      What sort of a man is he to speak to?
      He is extremely humble and continually gives the glory to God.
      What is the attitude of the church members?
      They display the fruit of the Holy Spirit to an extent that I have rarely seen before. One has a sense of being loved, there is a sense of joy, of peace, gentleness, temperance, faith and meekness.
      Did the church members you spoke to know much about the bible?
      Yes, our whole group was surprised at the sound scriptural knowledge of those we spoke to.
      How do you know he is not an occultist?
      I have been involved in the deliverance ministry for over 30 years. I have written such books as “Demons Defeated” which has been translated into many languages and “How To Cast Out Demons And Break Curses”. I have also taught on deliverance in many countries.
      I carefully watched the ministry of Joshua and I am totally satisfied that he is casting out demons in the name of Jesus Christ. As Jesus said “satan cannot cast out satan”.
      He constantly casts out demons by the power of God. He constantly upholds the name of Jesus Christ, gives glory to God and his preaching is biblically inspired. The work of the Holy Spirit is clearly evident among the church members.
      Also one of the above videos shows a dead man being raised by the power of God.

  12. If somebody says that TB Joshua ils wrong, It’s means hé is Right so, why is he spending time and energy to try to prove it? All he has to do is to DELIVER Him this other wise shut up and don’t be in trouble with God. Please find a time to confess. It’s preferaBle to have a problem with somebody but not God. Please confess.
    Excuse my english but you got the message.
    May God FOGEVE YOU in the Name of JÉSUS-CHRIST.

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  14. I hope people should be able to speak through the Holy Spirit if they are truly for God. All the men of God you mentioned, I personally coordinated them when they visited synagogue, Kubus denied tbjoshua before passed on and other ministers do want wish to have anything to do with Joshua anymore. Joshua may accumulates worldly riches and mighty men but the end come shortly. His .magical powers will fail him some day. Performing miracles or magic did not make you a man of God, miracle will not take anyone to heaven. Everyone should look towards Christ. He comes very shortly

    • INCREDIBLE! Late Prophet Adewole’s shepherd of the Celestial Church of Christ Prediction About TB Joshua

      By Streetwise Magazine, Nigeria – Issue 2
      Nigeria News | Thu, 15 Oct 2009

      Jesus Christ revealed who Prophet TB Joshua is to His beloved servant, late Prophet (Dr.) Akin Adewole, shepherd of the Celestial Church of Christ, Opopo Igbala Parish, Ikola Road, Ipaja, Lagos

      T.B. Joshua means different things to different people. To some clerics who are envious of him, he is an agent of Satan, a magician or an occult healer. To many intellectuals, he is an intriguing marvel, a wonder man of the 20th century. To the thousands who have been healed and delivered through him, he is a gift to mankind. Yet, in spite of all these, the question remains – who is Prophet T. B. Joshua? Is he an ambassador of Jesus Christ or of the devil?

      God only reveals His top secrets to those He loves. He revealed the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ to Prophet Isaiah. In the same vein, Jesus Christ revealed who Prophet TB Joshua is to His beloved servant, late Prophet (Dr.) Akin Adewole, shepherd of the Celestial Church of Christ, Opopo Igbala Parish, Ikola Road, Ipaja, Lagos sometime in 1995. The following excerpts from the press release which Prophet Adewole consequently issued on the ‘Man in the Synagogue’ in 1995 can be said to put to rest the seemingly endless controversy surrounding who T. B. Joshua is.

      “I was attending to people in my office one day when three journalists entered; the three of them came from three different media houses. They asked, “Prophet Sir, we see and know you to be one of foremost Prophets of God in Africa today. Millions of people are looking forward to your comments because you are the only prophet who has never commented on the subject?” At this point, before they mentioned what they really wanted and the man in question, our Lord Jesus Christ appeared to me from the Altar in my office on a golden, very beautiful and mighty chair. He commanded me not to join fake, jealous and envious prophets to say blasphemy against a fellow messenger of God.

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